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X ATM092
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:46:00 -
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Okay, firstly, once an acceptable offer is made I will log onto the toon in question and convo and confirm with the buyer. I will then make a private sale topic on the forum with the character being sold and sell it through all the usual CCP rules. This topic is just to advertise a number of toons that I have for sale. These are for sale. This is not a fire sale. This is not an auction. This is a shop. If you are willing to pay the price for a toon then let me know and I will set it up.
Dreads Phoenix, t2 siege, also has hg crystals http://eveboard.com/pilot/EX_Omega 16.5b
Moros, JF pilot, potential erebus http://eveboard.com/pilot/Elisriel 18b
Moros, thanatos http://eveboard.com/pilot/Reactive_00 18b
Moros, thanatos, subcap http://eveboard.com/pilot/zyphentits 19b
basic moros http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ion_Xor 14b
moros, thanny, nyx http://eveboard.com/pilot/Lupinus_Regaale 34b
basic rev http://eveboard.com/pilot/Chris_baileyy 14b
t2 siege, gun V rev http://eveboard.com/pilot/BurpX 17b
mainly subcap, basic rev http://eveboard.com/pilot/The_Jakkle 37b
basic rev, good subcap, good supports http://eveboard.com/pilot/Czar_Vlad 18b
great rev, training aeon http://eveboard.com/pilot/mekanikal 24b
Carriers
incomplete triage archon http://eveboard.com/pilot/Lady_Vay 13b
carrier V archon, training triage, aeon, hg slave http://eveboard.com/pilot/Shurtugol 32b
hg slave triage archon http://eveboard.com/pilot/Shaved_Knuckle 16b
basic archon V, supports lacking http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dominisi_Gorbachov 16b
incomplete thanatos http://eveboard.com/pilot/NdquatrE 13b
Moros, thanatos http://eveboard.com/pilot/Reactive_00 18b
incomplete thanatos (2 days off carrier V) http://eveboard.com/pilot/zyphentits 19b
Supercarriers
Hel http://eveboard.com/pilot/Nikols65 17b
fb V, carrier V hel http://eveboard.com/pilot/Kayla_B 20b
Aeon http://eveboard.com/pilot/mekanikal 24b
Aeon Ved, hg slave http://eveboard.com/pilot/Shurtugol 32b
nyx http://eveboard.com/pilot/Lupinus_Regaale 34b
If you have any interest in any of these then send me a mail. This is an incomplete list of a few of the toons I have available for sale, if you desire something else I may be able to help. I can also arrange for fully fitted dreads in the same station as these dread toons are in (north lowsec). I will update this topic over time as they sell and new toons become available. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:03:00 -
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Merchaltofme wrote:15b on reactive.
Also can i see more or all of your carrier pilots please. rejected
The ones I haven't listed are very incomplete. I have http://eveboard.com/pilot/Red_General wants to be a thanatos
http://eveboard.com/pilot/2bhammered wants to be an archon
and http://eveboard.com/pilot/I_Shari_I wants to be an archon one day when she's grown up. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.11 07:39:00 -
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Rejected. To clarify what I'm doing here. These toons are either currently in personal use by me or are being trained as investments to the point where they hit their peak value (their increase in value starts falling off quickly once they've become a narrow X pilot). Once they hit that point I will make individual WTS topics for them. Because I am happy to hold them and train them until that point I am valuing them based upon what I expect to make from them as an investment, as a trillionaire I have no desperate need to sell up any time soon. The prices are "get it now buyouts" whereby you throw a lot of isk at me and get it immediately so I forfeit the long term profit and reinvest the liquidity elsewhere. If you can find a similar toon being held by someone who views it as a liability and wants to dump it asap then he will obviously accept a much lower price. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.11 19:32:00 -
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bump |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 10:36:00 -
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Bump, new nyx pilot added to the store. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108130 |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:44:00 -
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MicioGatto wrote:You are a trilionaire and you need to OVERPRICE every chars you have there of 9-10bil trying to rip off your customer?
If anyone want info i can give you proof. You sir are a joke. Sir, you have found out my secret. It turns out that the price the character trader buys the characters at is actually less! than the price he sells them at. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:03:00 -
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MicioGatto wrote:Ed Hardi wrote:MicioGatto wrote:X ATM092 wrote:MicioGatto wrote:You are a trilionaire and you need to OVERPRICE every chars you have there of 9-10bil trying to rip off your customer?
If anyone want info i can give you proof. You sir are a joke. Sir, you have found out my secret. It turns out that the price the character trader buys the characters at is actually less! than the price he sells them at. 1-3 BIL more of the last price is ok, 9-10 bil more is a joke. Let me tell you this, i have no problem in resellers, it's a good way to make isk, but when you act like a greedy bastard and than you say: i'm a trillionaire, well sir i'm gonna hunt you down :) I'll post soon in every thread there is a clearly overpriced char and i have the list of your chars, so i can follow you so easy. Stop manipulating the bazaar in such a bad way, ppl can afford to buy a good char for 20-25bil and you want them to pay 35-45 for it. lol, you are a bad business man. if you buy a char for resale, you have to calculate: 500m per month for the account and 1 bil for the transfer. so you need minimum 3 bil+ for a profitable job. and you sir are a joke. if you not have the money to buy a char or any constructive question on the seller, leave the thread b**ch  you sir are a joke: it's 1 bil for transfer and nothing more, no one keep char for more than 1-2 weeks unless you train them but that's a different story. So if you sell it for 2bil more you are already earning isk, if you sell it for 3 bil more it's a 2 bil profit. Selling it for 9-10bil more is simply a rip off :) Yeah i'm so poor, can you give me some isk? What you need to do then sir is borrow 1t isk and go to all the topics where I think a toon is undervalued and bid 1b under its true value. Then I'll not be able to afford it and you can buy them and then relist them at their value (keeping a billion to cover the plexes) and wait for the buyer to come along. That way sellers are happy because they get to liquidate their characters instantly, buyers are happy because they have a pool of characters to pick from and you're happy because you've made the market 100% efficient. Unfortunately my investors feel that if I tie up all their isk for several months they should get a return on it. It's very sad. Maybe you'll have more luck. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:39:00 -
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Another new nyx/moros/thanatos pilot added to the store. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108210 |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 21:53:00 -
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Unfortunately what with the plex costs to transfer (1b) and the skillbook costs for capital ships and carrier/dread (again around 1b) that leaves very little isk for the skillpoints. You could potentially get a holder toon for that budget if you searched but not one from me. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.12 23:20:00 -
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SRS BZNZ wrote:If you weren't such worthless morons you would look at the methodology employed and challenge that with CCP instead of bitching that the big nasty man is asking for more isk than you have for the toonie you want.
Seeing as you are super dumb I will spell it out to you: send yourself a buddy account invite, buy character, PLEX account, have character transferred to that account. With this method it costs you nothing/very little have a pyramid of accounts. He never pays for the training time, only the character transfer cost.
The buddy account program is and has been widely abused for almost as long as it has existed, and CCP has turned a blind eye to that abuse, but on this scale and in this manner you might have more luck. And if you shout and stamp your feet alot. If I buy and resell a toon CCP get 4 plexes for the transaction. If someone just sells it they get 2 plexes. I get through about 50 plexes a month, I don't think CCP are too bothered by my activities. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.13 14:52:00 -
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Three more additions today. This wyvern/chimera/phoenix pilot http://eveboard.com/pilot/Gal_Axian 22b
This aeon/archon/revelation + fantastic subcap amarr http://eveboard.com/pilot/Snow_CALDARI 32b
This thanatos/moros + gallente subcap toon http://eveboard.com/pilot/Captain_Dolphin 26b |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.13 22:27:00 -
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EX Omega, phoenix pilot, is now sold. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104978
Editing OP to reflect this. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.13 23:08:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:These are for sale. This is not a fire sale. This is not an auction. This is a shop. If you are willing to pay the price for a toon then let me know and I will set it up.
I had hoped the analogy with a shop, in which one sees items displayed for prices and then exchange money equal to that price for the item, would clarify it for people. I had hoped this would be an experience people could relate to and use to help them understand the exchange. However, although I tried so hard, and got so far, in the end, it doesn't even matter. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.14 12:27:00 -
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Bump. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.14 12:34:00 -
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nomad Raholan wrote:X ATM092 wrote:X ATM092 wrote:These are for sale. This is not a fire sale. This is not an auction. This is a shop. If you are willing to pay the price for a toon then let me know and I will set it up. I had hoped the analogy with a shop, in which one sees items displayed for prices and then exchange money equal to that price for the item, would clarify it for people. I had hoped this would be an experience people could relate to and use to help them understand the exchange. However, although I tried so hard, and got so far, in the end, it doesn't even matter. Doesn't really matter, as your posing as a retailer when in fact your really a used car salesman. Having dealt with many and i must say better salesman in the past I can see you have not researched your market place very well. 1. A great deal of the chars you have for sale are incomplete therefore won't appeal to those with extra isk top spend as they can with a bit of looking find a more complete char for around the same or less money. Those wiling to buy incomplete chars (lower skilled players looking to move to caps) will look for something cheaper. 2. You alienated a large portion of your market by letting everyone know you don't need money as you are a trillionare but are simply doing this to further pad your own wallet.\ 3. You are selling essentially selling 2nd hand goods albeit with some investment of your own to improve the original product (using the car yard analogy, you detailed them for maximum profit) 4. You have fixed prices are not prepared to negotiate.. You would probably see a much faster return on your investment by pricing them slightly lower than market value and or negotiate take a slightly smaller overall profit but still have more than enough to reinvest for your next venture.. If you can't make a sizable profit from this you shouldn't be in "futures trading".. I'm not really up on the character bazaar but do earn my living buying and selling many different and varied goods. One thing i have found over the years, businesses who have fixed maximum profit pricing are always good to watch because you can pick up good bargains at their liquidation/bankrupcy sales 1. They are training as we speak. Obviously if I could choose to have more skillpoints on them then I would, failing that, I can but train. The less complete ones are priced lower to match their lower value. 2. Pad my wallet = make isk. Find a trader who doesn't try to get returns on his investment. Like wtf are you even trying to say there? If I said "please buy my toons, I need the isk to plex because my grandma is sick" the toons wouldn't be worth any more. 3. Yes, I'm selling second hand goods. That's because I bought them, and then resell them. What you have done here is described my activities. I'm not entirely sure how that added up as a criticism in your mind. 4. I have priced them at their value. If I wished to engage in the "I ask for 10% over, you offer 10% under, we settle at the price" dance then I would just mark up each of them 10% above what they are now. But I don't and fixed prices discourages random lowballers who can't actually afford what I have to sell.
By your own admission you know nothing about what happens here and a single glance at my stock would show that I am clearly very, very good at this. If we're disagreeing about something and you know nothing and I'm clearly doing very well at it then maybe it's not you who is right. Food for thought. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.14 19:32:00 -
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penifSMASH wrote:buy-out for ALL of them
please post individual threads and I will confirm then send the isk This isn't an auction. |

X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.14 22:27:00 -
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The Jakkle is now sold. Updated op to reflect this. |
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